A chemical plant in Donetsk was attacked at 10.50 on Sunday night, the footage is very strange. The odd phenomenon will of course be attributed to a secondary explosion at the attacked site.
This is not the first “strange phenomenon” resembling the results of a Nuclear attack that have taken place in Donetsk over the course of the Donbass War.
A very strange explosion took place at a Donetsk munitions factory in September 2014, and I noticed whilst watching combat footage from the Battle for Donetsk Airport recently that Mikhail Tolstykh-known as “Givi”, a prominent DPR Commander mentioned in passing that they had been attacked with nuclear weapons in the course of the war.
The Vineyard of the Saker: Explosion in Donetsk
“ Explosion in Donetsk
I am getting lots of emails asking me about the explosion in Donetsk. All my sources agree that this is not nuclear. Possibly a Tochka-U missile hitting a chemical and ammunition plant. More details tomorrow. Good nite,”
These are the best videos of this event to have emerged at this time.
Was Donetsk Ukraine Nuked by Kiev? (ACTUAL FOOTAGE) 2/8/2015Tactical Nuclear Strike in Ukraine ww3
I can only describe my response to the article as being stunned disbelief.
Because while the entire habit and tradition of scapegoating and persecuting religious and ethnic minorities is repugnant, and I do not want to see anyone singled out targeted, defamed or belittled based on their identity. the assertions made in this piece are so contrary to reality that I thought, this must all be an hallucination.
It must’ve been the Jewish nation of Afghanistan that was bombed and occupied completely pointlessly for thirteen years as “punishment” for a False Flag terror attack conducted by Westerners and not blamed on Afghans or the Afghan government by even the arch liars.
It must have been Jews who were haphazardly rounded up on the battlefields of Afghanistan and sent to the legal black hole of Guantanamo Bay, tortured and imprisoned indefinitely.
It must have been the Jewish nation of Iraq that was attacked outside the provisions of International Law in 2003 and lost millions of citizens in the subsequent fighting and chaos. It must have been Jewish Iraqis whom the US military were simply rounding up and torturing. It must have been a Jewish Iraqi woman forced to watch as her young son was anally raped in an American dungeon while the cameras rolled.
It must have been the Jewish nation of Libya that was bombed by Western aircraft and left as a smoking ruin by the feckless Obama,Cameron and Sarkozy. Whose concern for the people of Libya apparently expired the day they achieved the “fig-leaf of legality” in the UN Security Council.
It must have been the Jewish people of Pakistan who were targeted in hundreds of US drone strikes that saw thousands of civilians killed as Unmanned Aircraft were used to attack people on the ground who appeared to possibly be militants.
It must have been the Jewish people of Yemen who were also subjected to dozens of the identical US drone strikes killing hundreds of civilians including a sixteen year old American,
It must have been the Jews of India who were massacred in 2002 in Gujarat state in the anti Muslim pogroms known as the Gujarat riots.
It must have been the Jewish population of Palestine who were forcibly and illegally removed from their land, repeatedly slaughtered en masse and in Gaza placed in an open air prison camp and regularly bombed by Fighter Air Craft.
It must have been the Jews of Egypt whose major political party was outlawed and declared a terrorist group and whose supporters were slaughtered in the street, locked up and tortured because they belonged to the “wrong” political party.
It must have been the Jewish Somalians who were also attacked by US Aircraft and an Ethiopian invasion because their government, (the Islamic Courts Union) their first stable government in decades, was deemed “unsuitable” to the interests of the Empire.
It must have been Jewish people that were portrayed as the insane and irrational bad guy in every Hollywood movie and US television series.
I assume the point has been made. The point is that the group who are under attack, who are being scapegoated, demeaned defamed and oppressed are Muslims. Of course many others are also suffering oppression, but since 911 millions of Muslims have died in Western wars that achieved nothing but misery and destruction. It is absolutely extraordinary that Mr. LittleJohn cannot grasp this basic and obvious fact.
The answer to all this is to recognise our mutual humanity across all boundaries and refuse to participate in a scapegoating campaign against any group in society or the world. There is a tremendous taboo against anti-Jewish hatred in the West and that is perfectly legitimate and understandable. It is so disappointing the way humanity repeats the identical errors across generations and civilisations. It is sickening the way we are all apologetic to former victims whilst not realising we are still perpetrators. Only this time it’s justified, right? “Well they told us it was a threat?” They told us that “Communist North Vietnam” was such a threat that it was worth the deaths of more than 50,000 US soldiers and up to 3.8 million Vietnamese citizens.
The Communists won the war and where was the threat? Did we even care? It meant nothing to people living in the USA, absolutely nothing. These tactics are old hat, they are really a joke at this stage.
If you are upset about the crimes committed against the Jewish civilians of Europe during World War 2, please recognise that “never again” means never again to anybody and it is Muslims who are in need of protection against defamation and harassment in the modern day Western world. Please remember that the entire War on Terror narrative is built around False Flag attacks conducted by Western Intelligence Agencies and their cut-outs.
Please understand that we are the threat, we are the tyrants and the barbarians. We are the Evil ones. These operations have nothing to do with “Democracy” or “Liberation: or any of the nonsense we are told. They are wars ultimately for the sake of War. War is an even bigger Racket than Smedley Butler could ever have imagined. I am not trying to suggest that Westerners are inherently wicked, but we have clearly fallen into an offhand, casual supremacism, and it is a tool that is being used to destroy the lives of the people of the Middle East and this should be unacceptable to all.
Former SAS soldier Ben Griffin – I Will NOT Fight For Queen and Country
(Warning! This is very distressing and unpleasant)
The Video the Pentagon doesn’t want you to see!
There is something almost touching in the way that people continue their rituals and traditions despite everything.
Life in the West seems to exist on two completely separate levels. The personal life continues with all the characteristic ups and downs. Yet there is an underlying knowledge that complete happiness, or better described as overall happiness is completely impossible in this situation. We all walk beneath a long dark cloud whether we see it or not.
We in the West live in a world of lies. Insulting lies, childish lies, and until this changes all who live in the West are tainted by this fact. The shadow of evil overlooks us all. I have no idea what will happen this year, I am sure many wonderful and terrible things will happen as they do each and every year.
I may be short sighted in my outlook, but the way it looks to me it is all rather simple.
Either the cabal(s) that rule over us with their manipulation and lies will be exposed and they will all from power or their evil deeds will continue.
This is the only pertinent issue and supersedes all else. The fall of the cabal(s) is inevitable. The brazen crimes they have committed have been detected and exposed and will destroy them in time. That is guaranteed. The only question is how long it takes and how much they destroy with them as they fall.
Happy New Year.
An Air Asia Air Bus 320 aircraft has disappeared with 162 people on board. Flight 8501 was traveling from Surabaya, Indonesia to Singapore when it disappeared, the pilot’s final communication was a request to ascend to 38,000 feet to avoid bad weather.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Asia_Flight_8501
This is the third apparent loss of a Malaysia based large passenger jet this year following the unexplained disappearance of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 in March and the Ukrainian military shoot down of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH 17 in July over Eastern Ukraine.
There is no point pretending I have any idea what has happened to this aircraft, the story that we are being fed makes absolutely no sense. We are told that the flight was traveling well above 30,00 and crashed in the water without the pilot giving a single distress signal.
It takes several minutes for a plane to fall from that height, the pilot cannot have failed to notice the jet had stalled or failed otherwise and was falling into the ocean yet there are no further communications. It also makes no sense that the debris has not yet been conclusively located as these re very busy seas lanes.
One really interesting story that has emerged regards the “Black Hand” warning delivered on a Chinese web forum supposedly on December the 15th. The message warns people not to travel on Air Asia stating that the same people or entities behind the MH 370 and MH 17 incidents were poised to strike again at the Malaysian Airline industry.
Message translation from Reddit user lolrus_bukkit http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/2qneik/someone_in_china_warned_of_a_airaisa_disaster_13/
“Black hand (a metaphor for a shadowy organization that does its work behind the scenes) has hijacked and shot down MH370 and MH17. This has pretty much killed the 6th largest airline: Malaysian airline. Now the black hand are targeting AirAsia to ruin this airline cause it too belong to Malaysia. Given how powerful the black hand are I suggest that all Chinese thinking about traveling to avoid Air Asia, so that you don’t disappear like those on MH370.
He (Landlord) then goes on to add: You could be happily vacationing, working, or studying aboard, but if you go on Malaysian airline or AirAsia you’re dead, be careful.
Tell you’re relative and friend this message (to avoid Malaysian airline and AirAsia)
Somebody then ask how do you know this? and another laughed at him calling him a conspiracy nut.
Landlord came back to say: all you civilians get away (from the airline) You can still hid, all those that see the post can still save themselves Once everything cool down,”
The authenticity of this message is impossible to verify, it is very interesting nonetheless. It is already becoming clear that this is another event where the truth will likely be never revealed.
September 11th 2001 the Crime that Will End the Empire
The truth about these events is neither comfortable nor palatable. However, until these atrocities are properly investigated, and the authors of the crimes sanctioned the West will remain a doomed and wounded civilisation being steered from one useless and futile war of choice to the next on the back of lies, manufactured threats and false flag terrorism. The Western world has no chance to live in freedom until these lies are completely exposed. It’s that simple. Freedom for Westerners and the 911 lie cannot possibly co-exist. That’s to say nothing of the incipient Police State that is still being erected on the back of the fear and loathing generated by these events right across the Western world.. Literally millions of human beings have faced sudden violent death in the Wars propagated on the back of these hideous and grotesque lies along with the thousands murdered in the event itself. I do not expect or hope that anyone would take my word regarding any of these events, I hope to provoke people to check the facts for themselves and discover the inescapable fact that the September 11th attacks were entirely conceived and conducted by Westerners. The version of events that has been promoted by the Western political leadership and media bears almost no resemblance to the facts. We are not talking about a “couple of anomalies” but instead completely blatant and obvious mega-lies.
The Path from Uncritical Acceptance to Critical Scrutiny.
I watched these events as they happened late at night in Australia. It never occurred to me for a second that the perpetrators could be anything other than anti-Western terrorists,I had heard of Osama bin Laden and had seen video of the man making numerous blood curdling threats and declarations of War against the West, so when the group under bin Laden’s control was blamed, it made perfect sense to me.
After all I had never heard of Operation Gladio , had no idea that Western Intelligence agencies had been responsible for mass murder and terrorism in Europe since the late 1960’s and had been caught blowing up the Bologna Train station
in August 1980, killing 85 people. I knew not of the Brabant Supermarket massacres
in Belgium, civilians brutally murdered by CIA assets and agents to promote the perceived interests of NATO and the Belgian Security State.
The beauty of these mass trauma based mind control technique is that the credulous audience are completely unaware of what has been done to them. I viewed this event from the conventional point of view for a decade after it happened. I was targeted successfully along with billions of others and convinced that a completely insulting and ridiculous story was true because we were all fed the same story at the same time, while we were still upset at what had happened and therefore highly malleable and completely incapable to look upon these events from a rational and critical point of view.
Dissenting Voices Emerge.
When I begin to hear facts and opinions contrary to the Official account in early 2002 I dismissed them immediately. When a friend mentioned that Thierry Meyssan was stating that a large passenger aircraft had not struck the Pentagon I retorted,”So what happened to Flight 77? Where did it go?”
When a friend mentioned that a group of Israeli men had been arrested after filming themselves celebrating the attack
I said “Sure it plays into their narrative but that doesn’t mean that they had anything to do with it.”
When I finally was persuaded to check the veracity of the Official story,just following the Tenth anniversary. In 2011, I was absolutely flabbergasted astonished and mentally shattered to discover that the Official story cannot possibly be true. For this realisation implied that my entire world-view up until that time had been based on false and incorrect assumptions..
Until that time I was living inside the shared illusion of the well inculcated Westerner and it was a rude awakening. I spent around a month reading up on the attacks, I found the Complete Timeline of 911 project very helpful, and read the article “the Destruction of the World Trade Center” by Dr. David Ray Griffin made it simply impossible for me to cling to my cherished assumptions any longer.. I remember feeling an overwhelming gratitude towards David Ray Griffin and all the other people who had not been completely fooled as I had been.
At that time I lacked a broad conceptual understanding of what had happened, I simply knew that the Official explanation for the destruction of the New York buildings could not possibly true. If I had been asked I expect I would have suggested something along the lines of “They must have allowed the terrorist hijackings to happen and then augmented the attack with explosives inside the building.” Since that time I have discovered a number of facts that make it completely clear that there was no suicidal hijacking attack using passenger aircraft on September 11th. at all The entire attack was a manufactured work of fiction. The entire program was implemented by Westerners and the whole al Qaeda hijacking story is simply a blatant and outrageous lie and this can be proven very simply.
Destroying the Official Story of September 11th. New York Story.
There are essentially two key elements of the September 11th story about New York.
The first element is that al Qaeda terrorists are supposed to have hijacked commercial aircraft and flown them into the World Trade Centre Twin towers, the second element is that this act caused the total destruction of the Twin Towers and started the Office fires that destroyed WTC 7. with the commercial aircraft, and these are underpinned by the passive and unspoken claim that nothing else happened. That the two 110 storey skyscrapers and one 47 storey skyscraper were reduced to dust and twisted metal remnants by office fires. An event that would be completely unique in the history of building fires and that has never been repeated. It is the cornerstone of the 911 truth movement that the New York buildings were all attacked with explosives and incendiaries. Any one of these videos makes this quite obvious in my opinion.
9/11 *RARE* CLEAR Video of WTC Building 7 Controlled Demolition
WTC7 in Freefall: No Longer Controversial
North Tower Exploding
911: Massive Blasts Audible Inside North Tower as South Tower is Destroyed
The explosions that destroyed the South Tower are heard within the North Tower. A long low, earthquake rumble is followed by a series of massive blasts, at least five, and they are so loud you can hear them “max” out the microphone on the Camera despite this happening hundreds of feet away in the other building and the sound being insulated by them being in a building. This is from the Naudet brothers film September 11th, Inside the North Tower, it is part of the official narrative and the massive explosions are right there as you would expectas the (other) building is being destroyed. There is quite simply zero doubt whatsoever that all the New York buildings were subjected to a prolonged attack with incendiaries and explosives. The NIST Final Report on Building 7 concedes that “free fall was achieved” on Page 87. “freefall was achieved”
Everyone with any commonsense or knowledge whatsoever understands that a fire couldn’t get a wooden stick to fall at free fall speed. The idea that Office fires caused the destruction of WTC 7 is nonsense of the most transparent and contemptible variety.
Since these important facts were brought to my attention several other startling things about this operation have become clear. These facts make clear the nature of the operation.
These are that the World Trade Centre attack began before the planes event had started. The first thing that happened, only seconds prior to the plane flying into the WTC North Tower was a massive explosion underneath the North tower that has been thoroughly documented and recorded and is supported by numerous eyewitnesses and recordings of the event.
Workers inside the basement area of the WTC North tower were wounded in the attack,
Here three are depicted lying in hospital. Each man describes an explosion prior to the Plane event.
George Stephanopolous, well-known US broadcast journalist described it thus. On ABC America on the day of the attack. “At the time I was actually in the subway, heading towards the World Trade Centre. right around Franklin Street, and after the first explosion the subway station started to fill with smoke, the subway, cars started to fill with smoke. and the subway actually stopped. ”
These witnesses describe the same thing. This lady was on holiday from Alabama for her birthday.
”All of a sudden it sounded like…I don’t know where the subway is but it sounded like a collision (or) a bomb, it was just pounding Boom! Boom! Boom! and I literally thought the subway had exploded and all the cars were just going to land right on top of us”that it was going to bring all the (subway) cars down on top of us.”
This office worker concurs stating.
“” I was in the path train, there was a huge explosion sound and everyone came out. ”
This video contains all these and many other eyewitness testimonies, along with two audio recordings that indicate a blast before the plane impact. This is really a great compilation of everyday people telling the truth of their experiences on the day, before they knew what the story was supposed to be, and they make it absolutely clear.
9/11 CLEAR bomb going off in WTC BEFORE first plane EVER hit
This video concentrates solely on three separate audio recordings of the North Tower attack, from the FBI, WNYW News and a woman named Ginny Carr. All indicate an underground blast prior to the plane impact.
911: Three Audiotapes Indicate Bomb Before Plane!
“We all saw the plane hit the building”
Once I understood that the attack did not even begin with the plane, but rather with an underground explosion, synchronised with and designed to be masked by the “plane “ incident. It became clear to me is obvious that these weren’t al Qaeda hijackings. But it is far removed from the conditioned belief that people find it extremely difficult to come to terms with.
Nonetheless, there is no doubt that there were no hijackings associated with these attacks and in order to understand this all that is required is to look at a photograph of the object filmed striking the South tower and compare it against what it is supposed to be, a United Airlines 767 Tail N612UA.
The Planes Operation was Pure Deception.
No Passenger Aircraft, hijacked or otherwise were involved in this event. That was a lie. A work of fiction. We all saw the plane hit the building, but what plane did we see?
We saw a plane that clearly did not belong to the United Airlines fleet. We saw a plane that cannot possibly have been a United Airlines jet or any other passenger airliner.
We know what United Airlines Boeing 767 look like.
Indeed we know specifically what United Airlines 767 tail number N612ua looked like because we have it’s photograph. we also have photographs of the aircraft that was filmed flying into the South Tower. The aircraft that is filmed striking the South tower is clearly the wrong colour. It lacks the United Airlines livery and therefore cannot be a United Airlines aircraft at all.
If we turn to the eyewitnesses, we find that numerous independent witnesses describe the plane as being a Military style aircraft. I am not trying to claim the plane belonged to the US military, that is a separate issue. The point is that the plane is described as being Black, being green and being grey, and many witnesses are adamant that it was a “military style’ aircraft” and therefore they support the photographic evidence. The photo and the eyewitnesses cannot tell us who the plane belongs to, but they can well and truly let us know that this was no United Airlines jet. We compare the photo of N!26ua with the object that struck the South tower and the differences are unmistakable.
A Fireman stationed on a boat in the Hudson river describes the plane as a “Manhattan “The plane was a large bomber style green aircraft”The audio can be heard in this video.
911, FDNY – It was a Military Plane that hit the WTC – Updated
This man concurs, describing it thus. “The plane circled around and actually come onto the opposite side of the buildingand crashed into the building, It was grey to be honest.”
These are only a tiny fraction of the people who made this observation. Many other voices attest to the same thing, but do not appear on camera.
The two women filming the event from a nearby high-rise apartment make the same observation as this screenshot shows. Interestingly, the actual plane appears to have been edited out of their video of the event. These people and many others feature in this excellent video created by the Xendrius Youtube channel.
Once it is realised that the plane is not a United Airlines jet, it becomes absolutely obvious that this aircraft has not been the subject to a hijacking by any “Muslim terrorist” The entire “al Qaeda” hijacking story is dependent on the fact that the “jihadist terrorists” hijacked passenger aircraft. If the plane is not a passenger aircraft the entire story is revealed as a fabrication. It is quite simply impossible that the terrorists hijacked another plane and the US government made an honest mistake. The fact that the jet that struck the South tower is not a United Airlines jet means that the entire hijacking story was simply a concoction from start to finish. We do not even have to prove the obvious but hard to prove fact that the supposed hijackings did not happen. The point is that the hijacking events do not relate to the plane crash events because the plane crashes are not caused by civilian passenger planes. The hijackings simply do not connect to the crashes even if we suspend disbelief and accept the hijackings actually happened. They have been caught telling one of the most brazen lies in the history of the World.
History will Not be Kind to the Authors of these Atrocities.
Since these facts became clear to me I have often imagined the way history will regard these events in the long-term. Whilst acknowledging that this is unknowable,it seems to me that when the truth of these events is absorbed, as it will undoubtedly be absorbed, because corruption and ignorance can only temporarily obscure the truth from broad sight. In time everyone will know and my guess is that this will be come a classic cautionary tale about the dangers a superpower, an Empire poses to its own and the world’s civilians.
This was an Empire that feared it was running out of the enemies required to maintain their budget and implement their agenda of tyranny, so they essentially arranged for their friends to attack them and solve their problems and used their controlled media to sell the ridiculous planes felling skyscraper nonsense. Eventually people will laugh, it will become a folk story told by people who have no idea what New York city or the USA ever were. People will surely say, “Did you hear the one about the Empire that was so corrupt, so evil, that when they ran out of willing enemies they invented them? And having invented them they arranged for massive crimes to be committed and attributed to the “anointed enemy”.As a work of fiction our world would be mocked as being completely ridiculous.
The Perpetrators are Psychopaths and They Still Rule the West
There are two different crimes associated with the September 11th attacks. The crime itself and the cover up. The identities of the perpetrators remains largely a matter of speculation beyond descriptions such as the “Shadow Government” or “Deep State’ or “Rogue network.: Whatever term it is used the conclusion can only be that these people are psychopaths entirely lacking in regard for human life and their removal from power is a matter of urgency for humanity.
The cover up on the other hand, brazen and aggressive, has been perpetrated by the entire Western establishment with few exceptions. The Western media have been instrumental in the dissemination of the big lie. It is highly unlikely that the Media will ever be brought to account for their roles in these crimes. The only rational response in my opinion is to leave them to die on the vine.They deserve to wilt and die of inattention. Their corruption and complicity are inescapable and the major Media are obviously still in the thrall of the Psychopaths responsible for this and many other crimes. We can never trust any of them ever again, and after they wither and die they should never be replaced by a concentrated media ever again in human history. It is simply too dangerous a mind control tool to be allowed to exist ever again and the results are staring us in the face everyday.
Terror Bombing Slays 37 in Government Oil Headquarters.
Mexican Government claims gas leak. Evidence suggests otherwise.
As of 2007, Mexico was the sixth largest Oil producer and the tenth largest exporter of Oil.. The Mexican Oil business began imports in 1911. The industry was controlled by Foreign interests the Royal Dutch Shell company foremost among them,until 1938, when Mexican President Lázaro Cárdenas intervened in the legal preceding by expropriating the oil industry and nationalized the petroleum industry, giving the Mexican government a monopoly in the exploration, production, refining, and distribution of oil and natural gas, and in the manufacture and sale of basic petrochemicals.
The nationalization appears to have been successful, at least initially, “Between 1938 and 1971, Mexico’s oil output expanded at an average annual rate of 6%.”
Although the industry was nationalized, the Government of Mexico set up a company named Pemex, in order to run the massive exploration and extraction operation.
“Pemex has a total asset worth of $415.75 billion, and is the world’s second largest non-publicly listed company by total market value and Latin America’s second largest enterprise by annual revenue as of 2009, surpassed only by Petrobras (the Brazilian National Oil Company) “ Pemex’s “pays out over 60% of its revenue in royalties and taxes, and those funds pay for 40% of the federal government’s budget. “
It is claimed that the Mexican Oil industry stagnated due to the Government of Mexico’s over reliance on the revenue meaning the company lacked the funds to invest in new ventures. Allegations of corruption have been made about the company. Production has not surpassed a peak achieved in 2004 in subsequent years. A well as corruption within the company, it is alleged that over the past decade, organised crime groups in Mexico have begun to siphon off and steal oil pumped at remote locations, even going so far as to build their own “Siphon pipelines” it is alleged.
“Theft from Mexico’s state oil company Pemex appears to have shifted from a small-scale criminal nuisance into big business, with actors such as the Zetas and Sinaloa Cartel increasingly getting involved.”
“The oil company, which provides the Mexican government with roughly a third of its operating budget, has long been plagued by robberies. In the past, these were typically carried out by small-scale gangs or Pemex distributors, and would involve intentionally mislabeling gasoline products, or selling off gas siphoned from pipelines at below-market prices.”
“During the Calderon administration, however, both the type of robberies and the perpetrators have changed, as Proceso reports, based on an internal Pemex document. Today, crude oil is being stolen on a wide scale, and the groups behind the theft are not small-scale gangs or businessmen gaming the system, but rather criminal networks like the Zetas. Furthermore, instead of reselling the oil at Pemex stations, the criminal groups are exploiting their international reach to sell it on to US refineries.”
Pemex under pressure.
The Pemex company and the Mexican oil industry have been facing various “pressures” from different sources for some time. There is no doubt that part of this pressure is ideologically motivated. Pemex’ asset worth of $415.75 billion is a slap in the face, indeed an insult to the NeoLiberal mindset that has dominated the West for the past 30 plus years, with the careers of Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan in power in the 1980’s providing a fairly accurate indicator of the time that proponents of NeoLiberal economics rose to power in the West.
Erika Johnson writing at Hot Air articulates this viewpoint.
Mexico’s oil industry is finally, mercifully ready to open for busines
“While the United States’ oil and gas industry has lately been going absolutely gangbusters, Mexico’s oil production has been declining over the past decade — and it isn’t very difficult to figure out why. The state-owned oil company Petroleos Mexicanos, a.k.a. Pemex, was founded in the 1930s and has precluded foreign as well as private investment into the development of Mexico’s considerable oil and gas reserves throughout most of its history. The prevailing populist/socialist-ish sentiment that tends to look on said foreign and private investment as little better than plunderage of The People’s natural resources has kept the industry from following in the United States’ footsteps, but as President Peña Nieto put it when signing the legislation removing these self-imposed economic shackles last December, “we’ve decided to overcome the myths and taboos to take a great leap into the future” — and that time is almost nigh.”
Shannon Young of the Texas Observer offers a contrary view.
“Despite the promises that energy reform will unlock wealth for the benefit of the nation while lowering energy costs, many Mexicans are skeptical. Past moves to privatize the telecommunications sector, railroads and the Bank of Mexico did more to turn a handful of politically connected individuals into billionaires than benefit the average citizen.
The celebratory rhetoric in the U.S. press about energy reform failed to touch on what are key concerns for many Mexicans opposed to the de-nationalization of hydrocarbons reserves.
Foremost is the uncertainty around what could happen when the most profitable sector of the economy is opened up to foreign companies. Currently, most of the profits earned by Pemex go directly into national coffers, supporting the social safety net, education and middle class jobs in the public sector. Will the government be forced to take “austerity measures,” cut social spending and downsize its bureaucracy when part of the oil and gas profits flow toward foreign shareholders? If energy reform fails to produce the economic success its supporters promise, would its failure trigger a domino effect of wider economic collapse within Mexico?
Then there’s the issue of the rushed—and some would say undemocratic—way in which energy reform was passed. The legislation zipped through both houses of Congress and a majority of state legislatures over the course of just one week. Past attempts to open up Mexico’s energy sector had been stopped by well-organized opposition. This time, a legislative coalition including the country’s two largest political parties ensured easy passage of the reform, steamrolling the opposition and ignoring calls to put the controversial measure to a popular vote in a nationwide referendum.”
“Another issue is that some of the most significant oil and gas deposits are located in—or just offshore of—areas known in Mexico as zonas de silencio or silence zones.
In silence zones, organized criminals operate with little hindrance from local authorities; civilians face economic and physical violence; open criticism and adversarial journalism can be life-threatening; and impunity is systemic.
Residents of silence zones often regard organized criminals and local government authorities as different facets of the same power structure. This is particularly the case in the Gulf Coast border state of Tamaulipas, where organized criminals control many secondary roads to gas fields; fuel theft from state-owned pipelines is rampant; and stolen gas is sold openly out of the backs of vans in border cities like Matamoros, Rio Bravo and Reynosa.
Just how foreign companies will go about their business in oil and gas fields in territories with already entrenched armed actors is an open question. But experiences in Iraq, which de-nationalized its oil reserves after the U.S.-led invasion, have shown that some American energy companies are willing to do business in violence-plagued areas if the reserves and the potential gains from them seem to justify the risks.
The energy reform story is still developing. Mexico, plagued by corruption and an insecurity crisis, is embarking on one of the most controversial economic reforms in its modern history. In February, legislators will draft secondary legislation to nail down licensing and other details. No doubt there’ll be protesters outside the legislative chambers once again clamoring for a say in how the nation’s oil and gas wealth is administered and distributed..”
A Troubled Recent History.
Over the past several years several rather strange disasters have beset the Pemex company, leading to a large number of deaths and injuries. To be honest I have looked at some of the refinery and pipeline incidents, and I can’t provide evidence of lies or foul play in these cases. The Pemex Tower incident is another matter entirely. Hardly fits the description of a classic False Flag attack as there were no patsies. I think that indicates that the message was aimed at insiders. The general public were not the intended audience. It’s an example of a terrorist attack that was covered up by a corrupt government intent only on serving their Globalist masters and lying to the people they are supposedly serving.
The Bombing of January 31st, 2013.
The Pemex tower in Mexico City was struck by a series of large explosions at around 3.45 pm on January 31st,2013. (31113). Thirty seven people died and more than 100 were wounded. Three weeks after the event the Government of Mexico claimed that the explosion was the result of a methane gas leak ignited by an electrical fault in the Car park of the administrative Centre, a 17 floor building adjoining the 51 storey Pemex Tower.
They maintain this story today.
I came across this extremely illuminating piece about this rather obscure (or so I thought) event.
and I’m almost disappointed. Dudley Althaus has understood and solved this almost six months ago.
“Pemex Blast Opens Questions about Mexico Govt Transparency – InSight Crime | Organized Crime in the Americas”by Dudley Althaus
“Nearly three weeks after an explosion that killed 37 people and injured 100 more in the headquarters of Mexico’s national oil company, Pemex, the public is far from learning exactly what was behind the tragedy. The government’s opaque approach conjures up ghosts of other unexplained events and concerns about what may lie ahead.
“Senior Mexican officials have blamed leaked gas — maybe methane, maybe not — and poo-poohed talk of a criminal or terrorist attack on the complex January 30 (sic). Even so, they did not allow foreign investigators near ground zero prompting some to speculate about the nature and source of the explosion.
They’ve also provided various scenarios but no solid evidence for their conclusions. Meanwhile, both the blast and the investigation have disappeared from headlines and airwaves,
Things happen, elicit moments of surprise and/or outrage and then fade. The Mexican public loses faith in ever knowing causes, ever trusting what information it’s finally granted. As with Pemex’s latest explosion, the factual fog spawns rumors, conspiracy theories and shoulder shrugs.
George Baker, a respected Houston-based energy analyst and Pemex watcher, has compiled some of the “counter narratives” explaining the blast making the rounds in the energy industry. They range from plots by unnamed gangster bands, guerrilla groups, or disgruntled employees, to an inside job aimed at destroying incriminating documents held in the damaged buildings”.
“The Zetas have systematically targeted Pemex for years. In addition to collecting extortion, they steal gasoline, natural gas and liquid petroleum, among other products, and resell these products in Mexico and the United States, costing the company an estimated $1 billion per year. (See InSight Crime map below, which charts attacks on Pemex pipelines registered in 2010). When they don’t get their way, the Zetas have been known to kidnap workers.
There are also sticky legal issues swirling around the company connecting it to organized crime. One oil services firm, ADT Petroservicios, which allegedly laundered money for the Zetas, had millions in contracts with Pemex. The head of the company, Francisco Antonio Colorado Cessa, was arrested in 2012 in Texas, and the company was subsequently blacklisted by the US Treasury Department.”
“Some asked, is a drug cartel warning the new government to keep its distance?” Baker wrote in a report on the blast for his website.
“If a deliberate attack – with C-4 explosives, as some suggest – the Pemex explosion’s real target likely was the Peña government, who like his recent predecessors hopes to reform Mexico’s crucial yet stumbling energy industries. Despite government denials, many believe such reforms aim to re-privatize a petrochemical industry whose nationalization 75 years ago remains a source of patriotic pride.
But beyond energy issues, Peña and his allies hope to change the conversation about Mexico – for the past six years dominated by gangland violence – to one of economic progress, social peace and competent rule.
That “Mexico’s moment” narrative contends that the country’s 115 million people are ready to realize their destiny as one of the world’s leading economies and political powers. But the attempts to point to good news continues being overshadowed by both the criminal violence, which which has claimed 70,000 lives by one recent government estimate, and unresolved mysteries like the Pemex disaster. “
This is from CBC, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation.story, “Mexico oil firm blast death toll rises to 32 – World – CBC News
“The cause of the basement explosion in an administrative building next to the iconic, 51-storey Pemex tower in Mexico City remained a mystery, with President Enrique Pena Nieto urging people not to speculate. “ Later, “The explosion occurred at about 3:45 p.m., just as the administrative shift was about to end. It hit the basement and three floors, where as many as 250 people work, Lozoya said. The floors collapsed in the 14-storey administrative building at the headquarters office complex, where some 10,000 people work daily. Lozoya said about 1,700 work in the building affected. Pemex first said it had evacuated the tower and administrative building because of a problem with the electrical system. The company later tweeted that the Attorney General’s Office was investigating the explosion..”
Here are a couple of eyewitness accounts of the Pemtex blast Before the Methane explanation story was imposed by the Mexican government. “Gabriela Espinoza, 50, a Pemex secretary for 29 years, was on the second floor of the tower when she said she heard two loud explosions and a third smaller one.”
“There was a very loud roar. It was very ugly,” she said.
Espinoza’s co-worker, Tomas Rivera, 32, worked on the ground floor in the building where the explosion occurred and said the force knocked him to the basement, fracturing his wrist and jaw. The injured were taken to two Pemex hospitals and other facilities, including the Red Cross hospital in the Polanco neighborhood near the oil company’s headquarters.”
Here is something telling, “Earlier in the day, Pemex sent out a tweet saying that the building was being evacuated due to a “problem with the electrical system” in the complex that includes the skyscraper “
I managed to find a number of Mexican television stories on the blast. Watching this video. Just the first 30 seconds. Clarified the situation.
VIDEO DE ANGUSTIA EN EXPLOSIÓN DE TORRE DE PEMEX 37 MUERTOS
This footage really simplified things, because the film was being shot from at or near ground level, we are in office building, at or above ground level, we are not in the basement. Wounded civilians are present. It is absolutely clear that the ceiling cladding has been dislodged and blasted downward from above. The Government of Mexico have attributed the blast
“explosion occurred in the basement of a parking garage adjacent to the main office building. The blast caused the first two stories of the fourteen-floor Building B-2 to partially collapse. The cause of the blast was a gas leak that was ignited by an electrical fault “
How does event in a “parking garage.” possibly cause the first floor roofing to be buckled downwards while the floor underneath you is largely intact. An explosion has taken place in the office space, and that cannot be the result of a methane blast in a basement car park in my opinion.
The Hallmarks of Organised Crime.
As to the perpetrators? I wouldn’t care to speculate, beyond the fact that the group involved must have a lot of clout within the Mexican government, is part of a larger network of Transnational organised crime, and is fanatically devoted to the NeoLiberal economic model and to stomping all who stand in their path. I guess that “Shadow government” is the best term I can conjure. One thing this story does highlight in my opinion and an important thing some people including myself often overlook, is that many, many of the World’s government’s have been infiltrated by this network. If you focus solely on the USA United Kingdom, France, Israel Canada and Australia etc, you miss the vital fact that they are in Turkey, they are big in Indonesia, big in Mexico, in China and Russia,
These type of attacks are best interpreted as quite simple “deep messages” in my opinion. I don”t know what the precise message of this attack was of course, but I would suggest that it was something like.”If we don’t get the energy policy we demand, bad things are going to keep happening, and no-one in Mexico will be safe. We can get away with anything. ”
I guess one question is:Why did the Mexican government lie about this event? What is their motive? The answer to this question is unknowable, but it seems safe to assume that elements within the Mexican government are formal or informal operatives of the group that actually conducted the attack. One group has the task of attacking the building with explosives, another is tasked with lying about it, finding a patsy if one is required etc. Both are employees of the same network.
Alberto de la Fuente, president of Shell Mexico, major operator in Mexico prior to nationalization, offered these revealing remarks to Reuters on February 13th, 2013, a fortnight after the Pemex attack.
“The more open the regime that’s proposed, the broader and deeper the reform,” de la Fuente told Reuters in an interview this week. “Without a doubt that will attract more investment to Mexico. In that sense, a constitutional reform would surely bring more investment,” he said.
New President Enrique Pena Nieto of the centrist Institutional Revolutionary Party has said energy reform aimed at luring private capital will be a top priority this year. Mexico’s government relies on oil revenues to fund about a third of the federal budget, and the heavy tax burden has limited Pemex’s ability to fund new projects and raise output.
I do believe that Mexico should hurry up,” de la Fuente said, adding that if reforms are delayed for years the country’s energy wealth could be squandered if energy prices fall.”
The phrase they really love to repeat, and will use in reference to every nation on the earth is >open up to foreign investment. ” Every nation must “open up to foreign investment.”We hear this phrase time and again like a mantra. You must open up to Foreign investment. It sounds reasonable enough, but what does it really mean? What are the actual implications of this doctrine, this dogma? In my opinion it simply means that the world’s Oligarchs should be able to buy anything anywhere without interruption from either individual or National sovereignty.That the interests of an individual or nation should never be allowed to become an obstacle in the quest of certain elements within the Financial services. Energy and Arms Industries to control the whole world through debt, lies and violence. The world is a place where the Oligarchs exercise the power they deserve by virtue of their intellectual superiority and ruthlessness. They use persuasion, and when that fails, they make their feelings more plainly known, with massacres such as the bombing attack on the Pemex building of 2013.They are just a better connected group of mobsters in my opinion.
. Hopefully at some point in time the people of Mexico will demand the truth from the Mexican Government regarding this atrocity.
The loss of 298 lives when flight MH17 crashed in the Eastern Ukraine was an immense human tragedy. What followed without delay from the Western media and politicians has been an absolute farce and a complete disgrace. They have humiliated themselves and revealed themselves to be nothing more than zombie cheerleaders, drones without any pretensions of intelligent or critical thought, baying for blood, making absolutely ridiculous claims based on zero evidence and essentially engaging in a conversation of pure fantasy.
It is too early to state conclusively what caused the Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 to crash on July 17th. The funny thing is that the entire Australian media knew the whole story on day one, which was the 18th of July here. (the incident actually happened at 1am Australian time on the 18th of July.)
On the 18th of July, the entire (and I mean entire) Australian media and most of the Western media along with Australian Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, stated with supreme confidence that MH17 had been downed by a Buk1 ( SA 11) anti-Aircraft missile and that Eastern Separatists rebels, (helpfully known simply as Pro-Russian rebels by good old Controlled Media) were the culprits.
Part 1. Lie first. Lie hard. Lie in Unison.
Tony Abbott MH17 Press Conference (July 18, 2014)
It was the Australian Prime Minister who set the tone at his afternoon Press conference on the 18th. Here are some of the key quotes. “It is highly probable that MH17 was shot down by a Pro-Russian militia controlled surface to air missile.” and “So it was shot down, over Russian backed rebel controlled territory by what appears to be a Russian backed rebel missile.” This is by the 50 second mark he has claimed twice to know what happened and who did it. This is fewer than 24 hours after the event.
Given the opening, it is rather strange that he adds at the three minute mark that. “It is absolutely essential that there be a fair, thorough and impartial international investigation.”
Later he moves onto a discussion about the contacts between the Australian Government and Russian diplomats. :”I have to tell you that, uh, that the initial response of the Russian ambassador was to blame the Ukraine for this. And I have to say that this is deeply, deeply unsatisfactory. “ Classic Western spin here, the Russians are essentially doing exactly the same thing as he is doing, stating their belief in a scenario that sits with their interests. (Except the Russians are expressing their views privately Abbott is broadcasting his views to the world.). When others behave as we do and we describe their behaviour as “deeply unsatisfactory” rank hypocrisy is revealed. The hypocrisy of Western supremacism.
“I want to say to the Australian people that as far as I am concerned when you have a situation where Russian backed rebels appear to have killed Australians using, it may well turn out to be, Russian supplied heavy weaponry. Australia takes a very dim view indeed and we want the fullest possible investigation.”
One member of the media (Denis Shanahan of the Australian)) opines that the PM is using slightly harsher language than other world leaders in relation to the culpability of Russian backed troops and asks “Do you have any particular reason for doing so?
The Prime Minister’s response is to present an entirely circular argument that has absolutely no evidence to sustain it. All he is able to offer is the insulting and ridiculous assertion that the fact the plane crashed in a rebel held area meant that only the rebels could be involved. All wrapped in the blatant lie that they “knew” that the Plane was shot down by a SAM. How did they know? What evidence did they have beyond supporting the “goodies” and opposing the “baddies”? Zilch. Absolutely nothing. Zero. Everything Abbott said on July 18th was evidence only of his mendacity, dishonesty and despicable opportunism. The journalist was told to shut up and cheer-lead like the rest of the media zombies. Only more politely.
PM Abbott “ Well this aircraft didn’t come down through accident. It was shot down. It did not crash,it was downed” he reiterates helpfully. “and it was downed in territory controlled by Russian backed rebels.”
This has been the PM’s “heroic” claim that he has used to dodge the fact that he was actually speaking nonsense , and acting as a base propagandist on behalf of his Western handlers. and the deaths of so many Australians provided him with a wonderful chance to “earn his stripes” with the big men of the Empire without risk of consequence. The Russia-Australia relationship is not important to Australia, China, on the other hand is Australia’s largest trading partner. So the Australian PM is severely constrained when it comes to promoting anti-Chinese propaganda.
The claim about the Plane crashing in “Rebel held” areas in unbelievably pitiful. Given that these systems are capable of engaging targets at a distance of up to 40 kilometres (25 miles), the Eastern rebels only control tiny pockets of land and the Ukraine military have the same weapons systems. This claim is so pathetic a seven year old child could see through it. He’s implicitly asking us to believe that anti-Aircraft systems only engage objects directly overhead! Brilliant!
PM Abbott in Parliament “Malaysian Airlines MH17 has been shot down over the Eastern Ukraine.it seems by Russian backed rebels.” “We owe it as well to the families of the dead to find out exactly what has happened and exactly who was responsible. As things stand, this looks less like an accident than a crime. I want to repeat this, as things stand, this looks less like an accident than a crime.”
This is tremendous stuff. I love the way he repeats the “Not an accident but a crime ” line twice. It’s one of the stupidest statements a human has ever uttered on the surface of this planet because shooting down a plane and killing 298n people is a crime whether or not it was an accident. The distinction is totally nonsensical.
Synchronised and unanimous adoption of the Government claims by the Australian media indicate that there is no Australian media worthy of the name. These people cannot possibly be as unintelligent as they act. They are apparently conditioned not to use their critical faculties. This is a choice they make. Ignorance is regarded as a virtue in Australia and they want to fit in.
Channel 7. 4 pm bulletin.
“Good afternoon. Now the Foreign Minister has just finished a meeting with the Russian ambassador about the extent of Russia’s involvement in this plane being shot down. Now she asked the Ambassador directly did Russia have any role in this plane being shot down?. The ambassador denied it completely. Saying Russia had no involvement whatsoever.”
Channel 10 5pm
“Good evening. From the minute we woke this morning, and from every moment since the news has only got (sic) worse. Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was shot down by a missile over Eastern Ukraine…We’ll also investigate who fired the shot, as International fury finds it’s focus on Russia… and somewhere amidst the wreckage lies microscopic evidence of a surface to air missile. Evidence (sic) that could prove irrefutable evidence of who exactly triggered this atrocity.”
Evidence might prove to be evidence. Thank you Channel Ten.
Channel 9. 6pm
“Good evening. It’s been a day of anger, mystery and sorrow. The shooting down of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17.over Ukraine…but who fired the missile?”
Channel 9. During Friday Night Football “A Boeing 777 was blown out of the sky. Over Ukraine. Shot down by a Surface to Air Missile.” Later. “Investigators from around the world are now working to determine who launched the missile that took MH17 down. Tonight the blame is resting on Russian backed rebels in Eastern Ukraine. But Moscow is also under fire. Questions are also being raised about why the aircraft was flying over dangerous Ukrainian airspace.”
We don’t know who did it so we have decided to blame the Russians for the time being. Thank you.
ABC News Special/Victoria – Malaysia Airlines MH17 Disaster: Opener [18.07.14]
The Australian Broadcasting Corporation changed it’s program schedule on the 18th of July 2014. Instead of each State and Territory receiving their own individual 30 minute 7PM news,a single National News was imposed across the entire nation. It was only six seconds after the hour, six seconds into their coverage that the Australian Broadcasting Corporation anchor, Scott Bevan announced with absolutely no ambiguity, that MH17 had been downed by a missile.
“Hello, I am Scott Bevan. Welcome to this special edition of ABC News on the day a missile brought down a passenger plane over Ukraine.“ He continues, “Australia, along with the rest of the world is in shock and mourning after a passenger plane carrying 298 people was shot down by a missile over the Ukraine.”
Kerry, the Russians and Matt Lee of AP. Everything Falls Apart.
Secretary of State Kerry Enters the Fray.
It became obvious in 2013 that the State department remains a stronghold for Neoconservatives within the US Government. Many other parts of the Executive Branch, from the President to the Defence Secretary and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff are no longer staffed by warmongers with any real verve for the information campaign required to start a war based on false premises.
These days, when it comes to starting the Empire’s wars, the State Department is required to do the “heavy lifting” in terms of delivering the right “big lie” at the right time. IN Libya, they succeeded, in Syria they failed.
Towards this end, US Secretary of State appeared on all of the five major US Sunday talkshows in order to make the case that the Plane was downed by the rebels. Speaking on CNN, Kerry was unequivocal.
“We have enormous input about this that points fingers,” Kerry told CNN’s State of the Union. “It is pretty clear that this was a system from Russia, transferred to separatists. We know with confidence that the Ukrainians did not have such a system anywhere near the vicinity at that point of time.” He follows with : “We know because we observed it by imagery that at the moment of the shootdown we detected a launch from that area,” he said. “Our trajectory shows that it went to the aircraft. “
Here we have a number of powerful claims. Unfortunately, it must be concluded that the claims made in these quotes are not supported by the known facts. Kerry stated that “the Ukrainians did not have such a system anywhere near the vicinity at that point in time.” The problem here is that the Russian military have presented credible data, satellite photo’s that show that Ukrainian military Buk1 missile systems were stationed close to Donetsk on July 17th.
Malaysian Airlines plane crash: Russian military unveil data on MH17 incident over Ukraine (FULL)
July 21st Russian Defence Ministry Briefing.
Obviously in a situation like this, information that comes from any and all interested parties should be treated with scepticism. The Russians are involved in this situation, therefore that applies to them. One very interesting thing about the Russian military presentation was that it displays a high level of discipline when compared with what has been on offer from the propagandists of the West. The Russians do not claim that the Ukrainian missile battery destroyed the plane, nor that the military jet in the area was responsible. They merely state that these items were present in the area at the time of the incident and imply that they may have attacked the jet without actually making any direct accusations.
It was Kerry’s second assertion that really gave the game away. Kerry made a very big mistake when he stated that, “We know because we observed it by imagery that at the moment of the shootdown we detected a launch from that area,”
Pay close attention to the exact words. “We know because we observed it by imagery….we detected a launch from that area.” There can be no doubt that Kerry is stating that they have photographic evidence of the launch of the missile that hit MH17.
These comments were made on Sunday July the 20th. Nineteen days ago. There is no doubt that if these images exist, they would be valuable evidence in support of the narrative the US is trying to sell. Yet, nigh on three weeks after Kerry made these claims. We have not seen one frame. Not one photograph. Absolutely nothing. This fact alone makes it very obvious that the “imagery” Kerry described was always a work of fiction, presumably of his own invention. No other conclusion is possible. The reason we have not seen the “imagery’ is that it never existed, and the reason it never existed is that the Eastern rebels did not shoot the Plane down with a Buk1 missile system. One very telling and little remarked upon claim emerged in the Russian military briefing was that the US had a Satellite over the area of the incident at the time of the incident. The Russians can only have made this statement if they were absolutely confident that their allies did not destroy the plane with a missile. They are saying, the USA knows what happened, they have the evidence.
Matt Lee, AP journalist is impossible to miss when viewing State Department Press briefings. He’s a real obstacle to the State Department propaganda machine, and although always polite and respectful, Lee has developed a highly adversarial relationship with a series of State Department spokespeople. The role was occupied by the esteemed Victoria Nuland prior to Jen Psaki assuming the role. Of recent times this post has been filled by Deputy Spokesperson Marie Harf T he State Department briefings are supposed to be a forum for the State Department to deliver a propaganda message to a group of committed lackeys who will accept everything at face value and transmit the desired message to the world without question. Matt Lee’s frequent questions and interjections ruin the whole thing. He always asks questions. Shows a very disappointing irreverence towards authority and refuses to be cowed when the Spokesperson attempts to brow beat him into submission.
State Department Briefing, July 21st, 2014.
‘Anything other than social media?’ State Dept’s MH17 evidence secret”
The strange thing is that the people at the State Department must have known that Matt Lee would attend this briefing and ask his usual thoughtful and sceptical questions, yet when Marie Harf stepped into that room. She had absolutely nothing to offer beyond, “believe us because we said so.”
The contrast between the the US press and their zombiefied and mindlessly obedient Australian counterparts is stark indeed. The Transcript of this briefing indicates that there are real journalists capable of independent thought active in the US mainstream. I have used the State Department transcript,it doesn’t identify the other journalists who also ask questions at the end. (Almost all of the questions in this transcript are from Matt Lee.)
Initially the State Department spokesperson confidently built on the claims Secretary of State John Kerry made the previous day.
Marie Harf: “There is a preponderance of evidence at this point both sort of out there in the public domain and also from our information that points to the fact that there was a SA-11 launched from separatist-controlled territory. We assess, of course, that the Russian-backed separatists have this system, and one of the main reasons we have called for a full investigation is so we can get all the facts out there.
So what I encourage the Russians to do at this point is to push the separatists that are backed by their government to allow access, to allow investigators who are in Ukraine waiting to go into that area right now, and that’s what I would call on Russia to do at this point.
Matt Lee: Right. But what they’re saying is that you should – they’ve put their – what they have out on the table, or at least they say they have done that.
Marie Harf: Well, I haven’t seen any of that. Again, we’ve made an assessment based on a broad range of information. We know this was fired from Russian-controlled territory. It is our assessment, very strong assessment this was an SA-11 that we know the Russian-backed separatists have. We, again, continue to gather more information and call —
Marie Harf: — on Russia to push the separatists to allow for a full investigation.
QUESTION: How is it exactly that you know that it was fired from Russian – I mean, from separatist-held territory?
Marie Harf: Well, we have a great deal of information that the Secretary laid out yesterday, and I can go back through some of it today. But we do know first that Russian-backed separatists were in possession of an SA-11 system as early as Monday, July 14th. This is from intercepts of separatist communications posted on YouTube by the Ukrainian Government.
QUESTION: Well, is there anything – okay, is there anything other – because there’s other —
Marie Harf: I can keep going if – or you want to jump in.
QUESTION: Well, is there stuff that’s other than social media that you’re talking —
Marie Harf: Yes, absolutely. There is.
QUESTION: Okay. So what is it that’s other than social media?
Marie Harf: At this point, Matt, we’ve said what our assessment is, very strong assessment publicly. If there’s more information that that’s based on that we can share, we’re happy to do so. We’ll continue looking at that. But look, this is what we know as of right now. Based on open information which is basically common sense, right – we know where it was fired from, we know who has this weapon – backed up —
QUESTION: Well, I don’t —
Marie Harf: — backed up —
QUESTION: — I mean, it’s disputed, though.
Marie Harf: — backed up by a host of information that we have gathered about who did this, where it came from, and what the weapon system was. So one of – we’re just telling you what we know now.
QUESTION: Right, right. But —
Marie Harf: One of the reasons we’ve called on Russia to push the separatists it backs into an investigation is so we can get all the facts. Instead of holding press briefings and making statements, maybe the Russian Government should call on the separatists they support to allow an actual investigation.
QUESTION: Right. But that’s what you’ve done. You’ve held press – well, Security Council meetings and going —
Marie Harf: Well, we don’t have leverage with the separatists. I would say the Russians do and they’re not using it. So let’s have them use it.
QUESTION: Well, okay. But I mean, I think we’re talking at cross-purposes here. I’m asking you —
Marie Harf: It wouldn’t be the first time.
QUESTION: (Laughter.) No, that’s true. What I’m asking – I mean, there are social – all you’re willing to present publicly that backs up your version of the story, which may well be the correct version of the story, but all you have —
Marie Harf (clearly aghast interjects sarcastically) “May well be.”
Matt Lee: (completely misses the sarcasm and soldiers on) Well, it may well be. But I don’t know because I haven’t seen your evidence that shows that the missile was launched from rebel-held territory. But you’re saying – so the only thing you’re willing to put out publicly is the social media accounts, I mean the social media stuff.
Marie Harf: That’s part of it.
QUESTION: Right. But there are social media accounts that says – that disputes that or that claims to present a different version. So are you saying —
Marie Harf: What would that version be, Matt?
QUESTION: Well, I don’t – there are many, many theories.
Marie Harf: Any —
QUESTION: But you’re saying that all of those accounts —
Marie Harf: Most of which are completely illogical, I would point out.
QUESTION: Well, but all of the accounts that do not support your version of events are wrong —
Marie Harf: No.
QUESTION: — and all of the ones that do support it are right? Is that what you’re saying?
Marie Harf: Look, we make assessments based on a variety of intelligence and a variety of information, some of which we can talk about publicly and some of which we can’t.
QUESTION: Well, is the – are you —
Marie Harf: And we also – and look, if you just take a step back, right, we need there to be an investigation so we can get all the facts, period. But on top of that, we have public information, which is, of course, the easiest for us to talk about —
Marie Harf: — of the separatists bragging about having the system, bragging about the attack that took place, and then walking back from it when it became known that it was a passenger jet. I would ask people who don’t believe our assessment to say, “Okay, what other possible explanation could be – could there be for that?” They defy logic, right?
QUESTION: Well, I don’t know if it defies logic or not, but —
Marie Harf: So when you start from a place of you have separatists out on – again, this is the easiest piece of information for us to talk about – online bragging about it, start there and then work from there and work from all of the evidence we have that we are confident we know where it was fired from, we’re confident we know what it was, and it points in a certain direction. Again, we would encourage Russia to support an investigation if they don’t believe the facts.
QUESTION: Right. It points in a certain direction, but I’m not sure it would stand up to an international —
Marie Harf I strongly disagree. I absolutely believe that it would.
QUESTION: — investigation. Well, are you willing, if not at this moment in time now but soon, to put forward the intel that you say backs the claims that were made on social media? And in particular, it seems to me that the Secretary was very definitive, as you were just now, at saying that you know for sure 100 percent —
Marie Harf: I didn’t say 100 percent. Nothing is 100 percent in any world, Matt. But go ahead. It is our assessment, very strong assessment.
QUESTION: Okay, very strong assessment that the rocket – that the missile was fired from the rebel-held territory.
Marie Harf: Mm-hmm.
QUESTION: And I mean, you can’t – there is no social media that I’m aware of that would lead to —
Marie Harf: Well, at the time that MH17 flight dropped out of contact, we detected a surface-to-air —
Marie Harf: — missile launch from a separatist-controlled area in south-eastern Ukraine.
Marie Harf: Which we believe was an SA-11. What you want is the intelligence that underlies that?
QUESTION: Yeah. Well, I mean, they – the Russians have challenged – I’m not – I’m just saying the Russians have said —
Marie Harf: I’m just trying to clarify the question.
QUESTION: — have said we’ve shown – we’ve put out our radar images which show this Ukrainian plane near at least – well, they have. I mean —
Marie Harf: Right.
QUESTION: Why don’t you put out your –
Cornered, Marie Harf retreats behind the National Security veil in a really sad manner. It stands as a profound admission of defeat and this marks the point at which this psychological operation began to rapidly collapse. Things really go downhill from that point. Soon, some of the other journalsts begin to ask difficult and troubling questions to which the State Department have no good answer.
Marie Harf: Well, unfortunately, I don’t have original declassification authority, Matt. But —
QUESTION: Okay. Is —
Marie Harf: Wait, let me finish. But look, we have endeavoured to make public as much information as possible. Obviously, if you’re dealing with an intelligence assessment in part, we are sometimes limited in what information we can share. That’s why I think you saw the Secretary speak much more forward-leaning about why we believe this and how we believe it.
Marie Harf Sometimes you can’t get into all the specifics. We endeavour to put as many out as possible. We’re continuing to see if we can do more.
Marie Harf: I will say that.
QUESTION: So okay —
Marie Harf: Yes, we are —
QUESTION: So there is a possibility —
Marie Harf: I can’t promise you anything, but we’re continuing to see.
QUESTION: There is —
Marie Harf: And I would also say that the Russian Government has a long history during this conflict of misinformation and propaganda that they’ve put out, so I would take anything they say about this with a very large grain of salt.
QUESTION: Well, okay. But I mean, the problem – are you committing now to at least doing – that the intel community is doing its best to declassify stuff that they can put out and at least end the conflicting claims put forward by both the U.S. —
Marie Harf: Well, I would say that the Administration in general is attempting to put out as much information as we can about what underlies our assessment. I would also say that these aren’t competing narratives from two equally credible sources here. The Russian Government has repeatedly put out misinformation and propaganda throughout this conflict in Ukraine, so I would caution you from saying that this is just two equally credible sources.
QUESTION: Well, all right.
Marie Harf: Although you’re happy to report it that way.
QUESTION: No, I just —
Marie Harf: But I would take issue with it.
QUESTION: Well, I mean, again, you might be right, but I don’t see how you can say that everything we say is right and everything the Russians say is a lie.
Marie Harf: That’s not what I said.
QUESTION: That’s exactly what you just said right now.
Marie Harf: That’s not what I said. I said I would say that we are not two credible – equally credible parties when it comes to what we say publicly about the conflict in Ukraine.
(This is the point things really break down, this is the real highlight amusement wise)
QUESTION: And your argument would be that the U.S. is more credible than the Russians are, right? Is that what you’re —
Marie Harf: I’m not even dignifying that question with a response.
(I’ve never attended “spin school” but I am certain that spinmeisters are trained never ever to make comments such as “I’m not even dignifying that with a response.” The idea is to project calm, knowledgeable authority and never ever to lose your cool even slightly. That ruins everything, creates entirely the wrong impression. I’m not seeking to beat up on Ms.Harf she is in an impossible situation due to her boss the Secretary of State’s comments on the previous day. and things go so wrong because she lacks the ability to tell outrageous lies and back them up with the right style of intimidation to seal the deal. She is too nice a person for the role,too human) )
QUESTION: Well, I mean —
QUESTION: Marie, did you see the —
QUESTION: But you’re leaving that impression, Marie.
Marie Harf: That we’re more credible? Yes. We don’t put out mass amounts of propaganda. We don’t put out misinformation about what’s happening there repeatedly over the course of this conflict, which I’ve spoken about from this podium day after day. Absolutely.
QUESTION: But can you tell us —
QUESTION: The problem with that is is that all of 2002 and the beginning of 2003 was propaganda and misleading information that was put out by the United States.
Marie Harf: Okay, Matt. I’m sure that’s a tempting historical analogy to make, but it in no way impacts at all how we are doing this assessment or what we’re doing.
Marie Harf: And maybe someday you’ll finally stop using that as a straw man all the time.
QUESTION: It’s a —
FEMALE JOURNALIST: Well Marie, one of the big things is showing evidence.
(Evidence- a concept and word apparently entirely unknown to the Australian media)
Marie Harf: Yeah. I – agreed. Agreed.
QUESTION: I mean, in court or anywhere, and I think that’s what Matt’s saying, is show the evidence, independent evidence of what you got in intel. I mean, the Russians —
Marie Harf: So we —
QUESTION: — said today that they did not deliver any SA – you’ve seen it – bulk missile system. I mean, is there evidence that you have seen – not what the Ukrainians or anything online has shown, but it’s something that the U.S. has got evidence that they – that the Russians supplied this to them?
Marie Harf: This specific system.
Marie Harf: So a few points. And again, I agree that evidence is important and we are attempting to put out there as much as possible. I do think that’s why you saw the Secretary and me today going much further in why we say we believe – why we believe what we say. And I know it’s frustrating. Believe me, we try to get as much out there as possible. And for some reason, sometimes we can’t.
Look, I think it still remains to be seen, right, how the pro-Russian separatists got whatever – the SA-11, the specific one – I’m not assigning culpability there. But we know that there have been legions of young men crossing the Russian border with very sophisticated weaponry. This would not happen without at least the acquiescence or the support of the Russian Government.
These are complicated systems, right, that it takes training on. We know that the Russian Government’s been training the pro-Russian separatists. We know, period, that what’s happening in eastern Ukraine would not be happening without the support of the Russian Government. So we need a full investigation to determine exactly where the SA-11 came from, but we know that the pro-Russian separatists have many of the weapons they have, have the training they have, and have the support they have because of the Russian Government.
QUESTION: They could have stolen it from the Ukrainian —
QUESTION: Does the U.S. – does the – did the U.S. actually have – independently noticed that a Ukrainian war plane was the in the vicinity of the Malaysia —
Marie Harf: I don’t know if I can confirm those reports. I’m happy – I don’t even know if that’s true. I’m happy to check on it.
This exchange can be summarised thus: The claims that Secretary of State John Kerry made were not supported by evidence available to the State Department so when some of the journalists “crossed the Rubicon”, did their job and asked questions, it quickly became fairly clear that the evidence had never existed and would never exist. The US press were told, “believe it because we said so and we are the good guys.” When the Press failed to comply the naked emperor was exposed. It quickly became obvious that there was no evidence because there was no good reason for the US government not to release what they had. The presence of US satellites over Russia has been well known for many decades after all, the US had no plausible reason for not releasing the data they had if it was there and supported their accusations. The Russian Defence Ministry briefing specifically stated that a US space satellite was over Ukraine at the time of the incident.
Part 3. Evidence emerges.
Controlled media hounds are still working the case (MH17 breakthrough: owner of Volvo truck that transported missile fears his life | News.com.au), they are persistent. The only problem for them is that all of their efforts to frame Russia and the Separatists were predicated on the assumption that the Jet was shot down by a Buk 1 Missile system. All of their efforts are directed towards this magical goal, to track down the guilty rocket launcher. It’s been wonderful stuff, they are terribly admirable on each and every level, both as human beings and journalists.
There’s only one problem.
There are multiple pieces of evidence, including observations from an OSCE observer that was part of the first group to visit the site that the fuselage appeared to have machine gun holes in it.
This is a video made by the Canadian broadcasting Corporation (CBC) Their reporter Susan Ormitsen interviewed OSCE observer Michael Bociurkiw in Donetsk, East Ukraine.
Investigating MH17 – YouTube
Michael Bociurkiw is an individual with an interesting background. He has written a number of articles for the Huffington Post about the crisis in Ukraine that indicate that he is a “Liberal Neoconservative”. This is the beginning of his article of March 18th of this year. Entitled after Crimea, the Only Question is “What’s Next?” The mood on Maidan Square in central Kyiv remains decidedly grim after a referendum widely branded as illegal and illegitimate took place in Crimea on Sunday.” Later he adds, “Will the insatiable appetite of the hungry Russian bear be satisfied with the Crimean peninsula.” He is quite simply not a person positively disposed towards the Russian Federation. He is the last man in the world likely to “lie for Russia.” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-bociurkiw/
Michael Bociurkiw describes himself as being “intimately familiar with that site.” and .”intimately familiar with the aircraft.”
Susan Ormitsen “What do you think we know about what happened to that aircraft today compared with the first day you came?”
“There have been two or three pieces of fuselage, that have been really pock-marked. It almost looks like machine gun fire, very very strong. machine gun fire that has left these unique marks. that we haven’t seen anywhere else.” He continues. “We’ve also been asked for example,did we see any examples of a missile, well, no we haven’t, that’s the answer. “
One important thing to remember about this quote is the context, this is Michael Bociurkiw’s direct and initial response when asked what they now knew. Machine gun holes. What we are probably going to be told is that this was a crude attempt by the rebels to frame the Ukraine Air Force , they fired their guns into the plane and made the holes. But we know from the context and content of the quote that Mr. Bociurkiw does not believe that or even consider it. It is the first evidence he mentions when asked. He thinks it’s evidence.
Former Lufthansa pilot Peter Haienko was the person who noticed and highlighted the devastating photo of large calibre bullet holes travelling through both sides of the MH17 jet. He stated unequivocally that the damage pattern in the cockpit area was consistent with cannon fire from a heavy machine gun .
Here is a brief excerpt from Peter Haisenko’s article.
“The facts speak clear and loud and are beyond the realm of speculation: The cockpit shows traces of shelling! You can see the entry and exit holes. The edge of a portion of the holes is bent inwards. These are the smaller holes, round and clean, showing the entry points most likely that of a 30 millimeter caliber projectile.”
Su25 vs SU 27.
One thing that puzzled people, myself included, was the fact that the Russian Defence Ministry claimed that a Ukraine Air Force Sukhoi SU 25 was in the vicinity of the Malaysian airlines jet at the time it began to fall from the sky. When people looked at the specifications of the Su25, the claim made no sense, as the SU25 is listed as being capable of operating at a ceiling of 22,965 feet according to Wikipedia, meaning that this war plane would be incapable of travelling to an altitude to bee capable of firing it’s cannon on MH17. We all missed the fact that the Russian Defence Ministry claimed in their July 21st briefing, that “.Su-25 can gain an altitude of 10000 meters (32 808.399 feet) for a short time. “ I have no idea if this is true, but the Russians have been using these aircraft for 40 years, they developed them. More importantly, if the Russians wanted to lie, they would simply claim it was an SU27, with a much higher “official ceiling” and remove the altitude issue altogether.
I have no idea whose aircraft was responsible for the destruction of MH17, but I believe that the evidence indicates that the Boeing 777 was destroyed by fire from another aircraft. Add to that the lack of observations of a missile contrail . Add to that the multiple eyewitness accounts of Fighter aircraft in close proximity to MH17,along with Russian radar data indicating the presence of a military jet close to the flight corroborating the eyewitness claims.
We have therefore a coherent explanation of what destroyed MH17 that fits all the known facts and is not contradicted by any known facts.
The controlled media have nothing. It’s absolutely hilarious. They are apparently hoping that no-one will notice that there is not any evidence that substantiates their claim that the Flight was struck by any ground to air missile operated by anyone.
They are running around with their pre-event manufactured highly edited audio frame up and their useless photos of Ukrainian military Buk missiles driving around Ukraine, pretending they are “escaping to Russia”. The efforts at lying and brainwashing have certainly been dedicated. You almost feel sorry for them that all their pitiful efforts could not possibly have been more futile Because the entire con job hinged on the “fact” that MH17 was destroyed by a ground to air missile, and the witnesses and physical evidence and the observations of Michael Bociurkiw and German Pilot Peter Haisenko along with photographic evidence that corroborates the hypothesis that the aircraft was attacked by another aircraft. The identity of that aircraft and who operated it are not known. The Russians claim that the Aircraft was operated by the Government of the Ukraine. These claims may well be correct, but must be treated with scepticism because the Russians are a party to the East Ukraine conflict . The fact that the Russians sought to present evidence without laying blame, whereas the West did the exact opposite, means that on this matter at least, the claims of Russia deserve more credence. This is not to suggest that the Russians are an inherently more trustworthy party. That would be completely naive, but on this matter they have presented evidence whereas the West has only made wild and opportunistic claims.
I have true pity for people who are yet to understand that false flag attacks are both the traditional and contemporary way that the people who really run the world get things done.
Provocation may be a concept that people may find easier to accept. You want to start a war, but you don’t want to be seen as the aggressor. So you create a scenario that will provide you with a pretext for a war of aggression. This is really the oldest trick in the book, and until recently it had always worked brilliantly. Neoconservative Patrick Clawson actually lays out much of America’s false flag history in this short video.
Israel Lobbyist – We Need a False Flag to Start War with Iran!
The point of which is to recommend another false flag provocation in order to achieve war with Iran. He forgot to mention September 11th, of course. The most public,brutal and well documented false flag terror attack in history. The controlled media owned the public mind, owned almost all of us, and there was nowhere to go seemingly. Those days areover. The means of media production are in the hands of everyone, for better or worse.
We Don’t Like to Talk About That Anymore.
August the 7th was our designated national day of mourning in Australia for the victims of this tragedy. . It was tremendously sad to see all the bereaved at the Ecumenical Melbourne service. Strangely, the story did not feature prominently in the news. The coverage generally began about ten minutes into the news on all of the stations.Only one of the stations made any reference to either the culprits. Nor the weapons system involved. Only the State broadcaster ABC was still prepared to read the script. The claim was revised to the genuinely meaningless. :”It is believed that Pro-Russian rebels were responsible.” Think about that. It is believed. Think about some of the other things people believe. There are people who believe that if they commit suicide they will be reunited with the “space brothers” on the
Comet Halle-bop. There are people who believe Michelle Obama is a male despite the fact that she has given birth to two children. There are people who believe any number of things, and it means absolutely nothing. Anyone can believe anything! It is only when we test these beliefs against objective reality that we can measure their veracity. It’s called testing an hypotheses, and we know that the consequences of not testing the veracity of our beliefs is that we have little or no idea whether they are grounded in, or consistent with, history and objective reality. Only their blind tribal faith in the West can sustain this belief. So they revert to that.
August 7th was also the day that the Dutch and Australian recovery teams abandoned their tenure due to the Ukraine government’s military offensive in the area. The same operation they had previously promised not to launch. Also the military operation that the Ukraine government guaranteed would be over by July 31st. Again all of their rhetoric rebounds upon them. Who is hindering and all but cancelling the investigation? Who is obstructing and destroying the investigation? It’s the Ukraine government.
August 7th was also the day that the Russian federation, imposed limited Economic sanctions on Australia, along with a host of EU nations, the USA and Norway. The sanctions will disrupt 400 million dollars of Economic activity. New buyers will have to be found. The economic consequences are unlikely to be severe, or even noticeable. However, this is the second time in the space of months that this government has put Australia economy, and especially our farming sector under threat because of reckless and inexplicable Foreign policy that seems to rake no account of the interests of the Australian people and economy. First it was the immoral support for the Israeli Apartheid state that put our farmers extremely lucrative, live export trade under threat from rightfully enraged Arab governments. Now, we have this madness of jumping the gun, speaking nonsense, being eclipsed and humiliated by reality and hurting our farmers. Who are these decisions seeking to serve? What possible ;loyalty could the Australian government have for a Kiev government with suspect legitimacy, racist thugs in it’s Ministerial ranks, and who are currently destroying Donetsk and Luhansk in every bit as evil and futile a manner as Israel destroyed Gaza.
Other than some fans in the State Department and NATO, the Kiev government really has almost nothing going for them. All Ukrainian governments since independence at the fall of the Soviet Union have been hopelessly, even legendarily corrupt. This is true whether the President is pro Western or pro Russian. This is why on several occasions in the Ukraine sitting Presidents receive only 5% of the vote in Presidential elections. This Ukraine government appears to be more of the same, only with the IMF and War as a bonus vices. All the people who look positively upon the Government of the Ukraine presumably didn’t notice, or approved of the mass murder of civilians in the city of Odessa on May 2nd this year. Forty eight civilians murdered by Right wing paramilitaries aligned with the Ukraine government and no prosecutions. No justice for those victims. And given the criminal decision of the Kiev Government to launch a major offensive in the crash area that made further investigation and retrieval impossible who are these people and why do they continue to enjoy uncritical Western support?